forward 120 Posted June 9, 2020 Share Posted June 9, 2020 (edited) ...is 17. I like this album because it's one of those records every really good band needs – everyone knows it isn't their best, but it has both their absolute worst and finest material on it. And more interestingly, it has plenty of those middle songs. Plenty on tracks on this thing that some hate and some really like. It reminds me a little bit of Blur's Think Tank or Terror Twilight by Pavement. They're not essential albums, but there's a real unique character to them. Anyway, probably the best thing about this whole time was the live shows. Glastonbury 2003 is pretty well revered both in the band's history and Glasto lore. But people also talk up both nights at Earl's Court as their best shows ever. It also seems the first time they really performed in the sort of places they only play in now – AT$T Kamikaze MediaRadio Pavilion at OC Bitch Park in the US, big parks and not piazzas in Italy, arenas in Australia and smaller cities in the UK. Thom and Jonny also got a bit more into the radio session around here and there's a few nice, but not mandatory, recordings of those around, but more importantly they seemed to open the way for stuff like Latitude 2009. They also played a leg of UK shows a month-odd before the album... does anyone know when these were announced? Were they basically teaser runs? Edited June 9, 2020 by forward Quote Link to post Share on other sites
booger bear 307 Posted June 9, 2020 Share Posted June 9, 2020 At the time it was released it was a let down however I really enjoy it now and I'm glad they have this kind of album in their discography. It would be a really solid album if they removed Sit Down Stand Up, We Suck Young Blood and Punch Up at a Wedding. It could have been recorded better too. Too bad they rushed it. Could have been up their in the holy trinity (though I consider ASMP as a classic album with KA, OKC and IR). I need to bring this puppy out again and give it a spin. The vinyl sounds better imo. I have it and can dropbox it if anyone is interested. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
forward 120 Posted June 9, 2020 Author Share Posted June 9, 2020 Yeah the mixing and mastering on this is pretty flat and there are indeed parts where it clips (ie distorts at loud parts). But the older I get the more critical I am of Nigel and his cronies – Amnesiac can sound pretty shit compared to the how choral and sound-specific Kid A, A Moon Shaped Pool was neutered and overblown at the same time and has some lifeless mixing... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
forward 120 Posted June 9, 2020 Author Share Posted June 9, 2020 (edited) This thing has some really nice b-sides though and maybe their most experimental? I think it's pretty naff and the steely guitar or whatever the fuck on it is fucking shocking, but at least they tried I Am A Wicked Child. Paperbag Writer is interesting. I Am Citizen Insane is just really lovely. Does Fog (Again) count? Edited June 9, 2020 by forward Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MarkGrace 173 Posted June 9, 2020 Share Posted June 9, 2020 We Suck Young Blood is the only song I skip on any Radiohead album. It's such drag after the momentum of Where I End and You Begin. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
-|- 23 Posted June 9, 2020 Share Posted June 9, 2020 7 hours ago, forward said: This thing has some really nice b-sides though and maybe their most experimental? I think it's pretty naff and the steely guitar or whatever the fuck on it is fucking shocking, but at least they tried I Am A Wicked Child. Paperbag Writer is interesting. I Am Citizen Insane is just really lovely. Does Fog (Again) count? don't forget gagging order! or is that the steely guitar or whatever thing? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MarkGrace 173 Posted June 9, 2020 Share Posted June 9, 2020 Gagging Order 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AusMakka 48 Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 The Gloaming! 🤢 Right up there with Fasttrack as their worst ever released. And We Suck Young Blood is pushing it. Otherwise I like the rest of the album. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Belisha Beacon 22 Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 (edited) On 6/9/2020 at 4:55 AM, forward said: They also played a leg of UK shows a month-odd before the album... does anyone know when these were announced? Were they basically teaser runs? The album was announced on 24th march 2003 https://www.billboard.com/articles/news/71855/radiohead-says-hail-to-the-thief The tour was announced before that, maybe 7-10 days before? So comparable with the first shows of 2016 in that we had a tour announcement, then an album announcement. Different because the album itself was not released for a few weeks though we had the rough mix and final mix leaks by the week of the May tour. I moved home from university for Easter the weekend that the tour was announced and missed it. They were playing Shepherd's Bush Empire and I missed it. I probably cried. I was so determined to make up for this I visited Atease day and night for the next 2 months until I got tickets. At the risk of sounding cheesy I would probably never have had such a long lasting interest in this board, and indeed with Radiohead, without that stressful experience. Anyway I got to go to the Manchester show - a very kind man who I never see around here anymore got 4 tickets in a resale and sold me and another boarder 1 ticket each and drove me from Oxford to Manchester and back for the show. Also bagged the first night of Shepherd's Bush (secured 24 hours before - some "returns" from eBay scoundrels that had their tickets cancelled, possibly). Ed said to MTV that they wanted to kick off tour playing some small shows playing to more of a partisan atmosphere. I remember the excitement of them playing Kid A and Subterranean Homesick Alien as unexpected oldies at the earlier shows. This was in the days when "POST TONIGHT'S SETLIST HERE" meant waiting until midnight for someone to get home and post their reactions. MTV showed an hour of Shepherd's bush night 2 though it was a really odd setup for a pro-shot - lots of fixed cameras and weird angles and people being filmed with their heads cut off IIRC. Shepherd's Bush night 1 wasn't for TV and didn't have any big surprises in its setlist, though the $2 bill show in the US had an almost identical setlist so you could say it was a warm up for that. That's probably enough waffle for now. 17 years, jeeez! Edited June 10, 2020 by Belisha Beacon 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MarkGrace 173 Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 9 hours ago, AusMakka said: The Gloaming! 🤢 Right up there with Fasttrack as their worst ever released. And We Suck Young Blood is pushing it. Otherwise I like the rest of the album. Too bad they didn't find that live bassline sooner. Adds so much to the song. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Fuzzyste 140 Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 (edited) 23 hours ago, Belisha Beacon said: The album was announced on 24th march 2003 https://www.billboard.com/articles/news/71855/radiohead-says-hail-to-the-thief The tour was announced before that, maybe 7-10 days before? So comparable with the first shows of 2016 in that we had a tour announcement, then an album announcement. Different because the album itself was not released for a few weeks though we had the rough mix and final mix leaks by the week of the May tour. I moved home from university for Easter the weekend that the tour was announced and missed it. They were playing Shepherd's Bush Empire and I missed it. I probably cried. I was so determined to make up for this I visited Atease day and night for the next 2 months until I got tickets. At the risk of sounding cheesy I would probably never have had such a long lasting interest in this board, and indeed with Radiohead, without that stressful experience. Anyway I got to go to the Manchester show - a very kind man who I never see around here anymore got 4 tickets in a resale and sold me and another boarder 1 ticket each and drove me from Oxford to Manchester and back for the show. Also bagged the first night of Shepherd's Bush (secured 24 hours before - some "returns" from eBay scoundrels that had their tickets cancelled, possibly). Ed said to MTV that they wanted to kick off tour playing some small shows playing to more of a partisan atmosphere. I remember the excitement of them playing Kid A and Subterranean Homesick Alien as unexpected oldies at the earlier shows. This was in the days when "POST TONIGHT'S SETLIST HERE" meant waiting until midnight for someone to get home and post their reactions. MTV showed an hour of Shepherd's bush night 2 though it was a really odd setup for a pro-shot - lots of fixed cameras and weird angles and people being filmed with their heads cut off IIRC. Shepherd's Bush night 1 wasn't for TV and didn't have any big surprises in its setlist, though the $2 bill show in the US had an almost identical setlist so you could say it was a warm up for that. That's probably enough waffle for now. 17 years, jeeez! I went to the Manchester and both Shepards bush shows. I was front row for all of them and Im on that MTV show a few times. I remember the Manchester show Thom looked pretty weirded out that we all knew the lyrics to the songs as the album had leaked at that point especially the 'all hail to the thief all hail to the thief' part of 2+2. I was 17 at the time, somehow convinced my parents to let me go to London and stay with loads of people I'd met on the internet...different times. I remember Bjork played the day after the second Radiohead show and a few of us stood outside the venue to try and hear her. They were good times man, I was just a kid at the time who grew up in a northern suburb and had no real adult experience and I remember being terrified of London as it was my first time there, also remember how expensive everything was and I chose not to eat towards the end as I couldn't afford anything. What's funny now is that I actually cant stand HTTT and think it's their worst album. Definitely a product of it's time. Edited June 11, 2020 by Fuzzyste 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
baba booey 139 Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 (edited) 2003 music good i always liked iT And loved when people complained about the length(then we got a 36 minute album in 2011 great job guys) like bitch just delete the songs who gives a fuck about the artists intention i miss when thom could sing n dressed normal Edited June 11, 2020 by baba booey 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
forward 120 Posted June 12, 2020 Author Share Posted June 12, 2020 More nice stories about going to peak-era Radiohead gigs, cheers boyos 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
KromKrilkroff 1 Posted June 20, 2020 Share Posted June 20, 2020 Even though I dislike around half of the album (Sit Down, Stand Up, The Gloaming, I Will, Punchup, Myxomatosis, Scatterbrain), I still think of it as the last of their 'untouchable' phase. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
booger bear 307 Posted June 20, 2020 Share Posted June 20, 2020 I'm starting to think evil things about you. Like what kind of ice cream you might like. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Black Jesus 65 Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 Myxomatosis rules Quote Link to post Share on other sites
booger bear 307 Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 (edited) Yeah but what is your favorite ice cream and why isn't it mint chocolate chip? Or peppermint ice cream. I make a mean pep ice cream. Hand scratch too. Vanilla with mixed pep candies. My daughters love it. When I was young there was a place that sold actual bubble gum in the bubble gum ice cream. What kind of sick troll wants to make kids constipated? You guys want to know something really naughty? I dump soft batch cookies and milk until they become a chocolate chip milkshake. Happy fourth to my fellow Yankees btw. Now's your chance to shoot each other with Roman Candles. Edited July 4, 2020 by booger bear 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Robjonas 100 Posted July 5, 2020 Share Posted July 5, 2020 My best memory of that era was making the choice to buy a ticket to Spain and 3 tickets to the 3 shows in Salamanca 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Scatterbrain 287 Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 On 7/5/2020 at 9:36 AM, Robjonas said: My best memory of that era was making the choice to buy a ticket to Spain and 3 tickets to the 3 shows in Salamanca Ugh. Jealous of this. Have any pics you can share or stories? I want to live vicariously through your memories... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Girl in the Purple Dress 310 Posted August 12, 2020 Share Posted August 12, 2020 Pound for pound—it’s got flaws. Punch up is freaking weak, sounds like your grandparent writing an angry song. but it’s got that Lennon newspaper feel. Captures the time. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Girl in the Purple Dress 310 Posted August 12, 2020 Share Posted August 12, 2020 My fave moment... the end of 2+2 going into the intro of sit down. Sets silly, gory and ominous tone. Like it’s a b-movie horror flick about the bush admin Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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Girl in the Purple Dress 310 Posted August 12, 2020 Share Posted August 12, 2020 (edited) holy Edited September 8, 2020 by Girl in the Purple Dress Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Girl in the Purple Dress 310 Posted August 12, 2020 Share Posted August 12, 2020 (edited) pro Edited September 8, 2020 by Girl in the Purple Dress Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ash 270 Posted August 25, 2020 Share Posted August 25, 2020 ^yeah That! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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