Fuzzyste Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 Really in love with the old version of Last Flowers from the minidiscs, can't believe they didn't release that as a b-side. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaghettimatt Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 5 hours ago, Duff said: Yes. The best part of all the NOTOK/Minidiscs stuff wasn't the unreleased tracks (turns out they're all boring and not worthy of release) but the light it sheds on the music we know. Stuff like learning that LIAGH and Exit Music were once the same song, or how Nude got its name, or hearing how the different bits of Paranoid Android were recorded separately and stitched together. Brilliant. Yeah this. It's probably even more insane with the Kid A tracks given all of the experimentation going on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forward Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 Would quote but just about every post on this page is being referenced. I think the slew of unreleased material was pretty overwhelming. Even the one hour white tape had a bit on it and then of course the dialogue and disappointment around Lift and the other polished songs took most of the conversation. Really it was a pretty incredible backlog of information. There's some great alternate takes that are borderline rude: Motion Picture Soundtrack, Lift. Plenty of grails like the OK Computer attempt at True Love Waits. Some really nice soundscapes, funny little demos, and some songs so good you wish they'd retouch them – Attenzione, Tomorrow Night in Paris. I think the thing about those unreleased tracks is you can see how close they were to another Bends and keeping down the track of easy popularity. With a Kid A release, it'll be interesting to see what side they were towing toward... were some versions really, properly experimental or were there heaps of Optimistic-like tracks? The trivia and unearthing of song's trajectories, their histories, what bits were deleted and what were carried over (sometimes 10 years later) is interesting. Such a cool and surprising insights into their creative process. Never thought we'd get introspections like that from this band. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forward Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 2 Advanced issues found ▲ 8 hours ago, duaessences as clay become said: I sort of think that an interactive web space may be created; as that was particularly a crucial part of the KID A period. it may be that there are a number of recordings that would work within a special archival release, but then some additional ones (such as soundscapes and snippets) would be embedded there either to hear, download or both! Yeah this band nails most promotion, except when they intentionally don't want it (The King of Limbs, Tomorrow's Modern Boxes) and even difficult-y sounding solo project must have had some serious money poured into it. But Kid A is one of those very very rare albums that seemed to help the internet grow and also be the result of it (Neutral Milk Hotel, Wilco probably other examples but I don't especially like those records). Tapping into leaks, dodgy connections, and those smorgasbord diary-ish, art journal looking websites were really part of the 'feel' of Kid A. Hope they go all out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duff Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 Maybe we'll finally get the uncensored version of Ed's diary, where he tells us what he's really thinking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duff Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 1 hour ago, forward said: There's some great alternate takes that are borderline rude: Motion Picture Soundtrack, Lift. Plenty of grails like the OK Computer attempt at True Love Waits. Some really nice soundscapes, funny little demos, and some songs so good you wish they'd retouch them – Attenzione, Tomorrow Night in Paris. It's been said before, but as much as I love the fact that OKNOTOK happened and the whole white cassette thing, considering everything that came out of the Minidiscs leak, they did make some odd choices. They should have put one of the full-band versions of TLW on the cassette, along with the TLW tape loop. That would then tell the whole story of the song after having released the final version on AMSP the previous year, like releasing the making-of documentary after the movie comes out. Here's the song, here's the tape loop (explaining the Pulk connection), and here's an example of why this song took 20 fucking years. They definitely released the wrong Lift, and we might never know why. Some odd inclusions on that tape too. Like the recording of the fridge buzz. It's kind of a fun inclusion but considering it wasn't used anywhere on the album it's a bit of a waste of space - wasn't it used on one of Thom's Karma Police demos on the Minidiscs or am I misremembering that? Thank God we got the Minidiscs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaghettimatt Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 11 hours ago, Duff said: It's been said before, but as much as I love the fact that OKNOTOK happened and the whole white cassette thing, considering everything that came out of the Minidiscs leak, they did make some odd choices. They should have put one of the full-band versions of TLW on the cassette, along with the TLW tape loop. That would then tell the whole story of the song after having released the final version on AMSP the previous year, like releasing the making-of documentary after the movie comes out. Here's the song, here's the tape loop (explaining the Pulk connection), and here's an example of why this song took 20 fucking years. They definitely released the wrong Lift, and we might never know why. Some odd inclusions on that tape too. Like the recording of the fridge buzz. It's kind of a fun inclusion but considering it wasn't used anywhere on the album it's a bit of a waste of space - wasn't it used on one of Thom's Karma Police demos on the Minidiscs or am I misremembering that? Thank God we got the Minidiscs. Yeah hard to give a shit or feel bad for the band about getting hacked when you put it this way. That OKC cassette was a real wasted opportunity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuzzyste Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 All they had to do was release the disc 15 of Lift, long paranoid android, dog wander and true love waits Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
no452 Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 17 hours ago, Spaghettimatt said: Yeah hard to give a shit or feel bad for the band about getting hacked when you put it this way. That OKC cassette was a real wasted opportunity. It wasn't. The Minidiscs don't have the Motion Picture Soundtrack solo piano version, the cassette take of Nude and the demos of Attention, Let Down, Are You Someone, CUTW and Airbag. The overlap is actually minimal and the fridge buzz (which is actually present on both) only takes 14 seconds of space. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duff Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 Yeah the cassette was great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash Posted July 21, 2019 Share Posted July 21, 2019 the cassette was cool cuz it was its own beast that felt true to the era's "mythos" instead of just being a Here's an out-takes / demo dump tape! eat shit, fans! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuzzyste Posted July 22, 2019 Share Posted July 22, 2019 Would be kinda cool to get an insight into the original tracklists as well, especially Amnesiac with Cuttooth at the end which I originally think was going to happen? Been listening to a lot of bootlegs from 2000/2001/2002...they really were untouchable back then, all on the top of their game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thatthere Posted July 22, 2019 Author Share Posted July 22, 2019 (edited) On 7/18/2019 at 7:32 PM, forward said: On 7/18/2019 at 9:29 PM, Duff said: They should have put one of the full-band versions of TLW on the cassette, along with the TLW tape loop. That would then tell the whole story of the song after having released the final version on AMSP the previous year, like releasing the making-of documentary after the movie comes out. Here's the song, here's the tape loop (explaining the Pulk connection), and here's an example of why this song took 20 fucking years. unearthing of song's trajectories, their histories, what bits were deleted and what were carried over (sometimes 10 years later) is interesting. first, I'm grateful that the band has been able to record and keep as much esoterica as they have over the years. Hours of alternative takes and tracks. Loops and sounds and Thom's scribbles. Ed's diary. I'm still high on the minidisks. They have generated an incredible output of teasers, artwork, video--all of which nutter fans can sift through with a fine-toothed comb. Piecing together a song's history, trajectory, whatever you want to call it--it's great and how many bands can do this? That they have kept all this stuff, and are willing to share it with fans is pretty exceptional. Someone has to go through and pick and choose--how many bands would actually give a shit? The band thinks it matters (maybe not Phil) and we think it matters, so yeah, I'm excited even a year or whatever out from whatever they give us. Not a drunk post, it's not even noon. Edited July 22, 2019 by thatthere 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chernobyl2 Posted July 22, 2019 Share Posted July 22, 2019 2 hours ago, Fuzzyste said: Would be kinda cool to get an insight into the original tracklists as well, especially Amnesiac with Cuttooth at the end which I originally think was going to happen? Been listening to a lot of bootlegs from 2000/2001/2002...they really were untouchable back then, all on the top of their game. Track #9 I think it was supposed to be Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
appearcomposed Posted July 22, 2019 Share Posted July 22, 2019 i have just arrived from the future. ask me anything regarding the 20th anniversary edition of kid a Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section 917 Posted July 22, 2019 Share Posted July 22, 2019 1 hour ago, thatthere said: The band thinks it matters (maybe not Phil) Hey now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thatthere Posted July 22, 2019 Author Share Posted July 22, 2019 (edited) Awwww That was a joke Edited July 22, 2019 by thatthere Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ranipodtouch Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section 917 Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 Tomorrow is the day after today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scatterbrain Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 9 hours ago, ranipodtouch said: soon. Dude we got a year to go. Can you not math? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Jesus Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 6 hours ago, section 917 said: Tomorrow is the day after today. Two days before the day after tomorrow?! That's today! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ranipodtouch Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 On 9/19/2019 at 10:55 PM, Scatterbrain said: Dude we got a year to go. Can you not math? *popcorn* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duaessences as clay become Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 i couldn't remember quite when OKNOTOK was announced; so i have checked it was a month and a half before its release! Perhaps something could somehow be released during the upcoming winter months! One might consider that if there will be two volumes with another being released in 2021, for it to come out earlier in 2020 would be a good amount of space between them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baba booey Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 (edited) Quote I've been looking back a bit at the sort of Kid A stuff, because the anniversary is coming up, going through the tapes a bit with Nigel. That's pretty crazy. Mostly it's crazy because you're like, how? How did we get that? How? I was listening to Spinning Plates going, "How did we get there?" and then I remember, oh yeah I know, I recorded something on a little sequencer, and then Nigel was spinning it backwards on the tape, and I went, "Wait, wait that's it!" So we turned the tape over, then I remember Colin just put in this weird Rhodes thing on it, and then deciding to record the vocal backwards then spin 'em forwards and then learn it, blah blah blah. How? Why? How? How did we get there? Mental. Sort of recognizing us in it, and sort of... no idea who these people are at all. https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m00087fh at 2:22:44 Edited September 24, 2019 by baba booey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duff Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 Quote I remember Colin just put in this weird Rhodes thing on it, The way he says this, and the fact that the sample went uncredited, makes me worry Thom didn't realise that Colin put a sample of an old Isaac Hayes record on it. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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