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On 3/12/2019 at 8:04 PM, section 917 said:

This doesn't deserve its own post.

Your post doesn't read, "This post doesn't deserve its own post."  Which would be internally funny in a thread with this name (and which was so well captured by @Ash).

Otherwise, it seems like you're passing judgment on posting the news item.   Or passing judgment on asking about it---both of which put a chill on conversation.  It shuts down discussion instead of encouraging it.   

The board has new members we haven't heard from.  Maybe more people would join the conversation if it seemed a more hospitable/welcoming place.  A place where we could, you know, relax.  

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4 hours ago, thatthere said:

Your post doesn't read, "This post doesn't deserve its own post."  Which would be internally funny in a thread with this name (and which was so well captured by @Ash).

Otherwise, it seems like you're passing judgment on posting the news item.   Or passing judgment on asking about it---both of which put a chill on conversation.  It shuts down discussion instead of encouraging it.   

The board has new members we haven't heard from.  Maybe more people would join the conversation if it seemed a more hospitable/welcoming place.  A place where we could, you know, relax.  

I was referring to the thread itself and was making a pointless stupid post without realizing that it might be seen as responding to what was posted just before said post, sorry. 

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Bit more on the inquest which began today.   "The inquest, which is expected to last three weeks and hear from roughly 25 witnesses, will examine the circumstances around Johnson’s death, but will not assign blame." Today Scott's dad Ken shared memories of Scott.   Ken said, "The wound doesn't close."  A piano technician showed a video and reported that the stage was swaying and creaking as he was setting up and working.  No name given of the "band member" who is said to be testifying.  

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"On the opening day of the inquest, Mr Selway described Johnson as a someone with a sense of fun and as a consummate professional "on top of his game" - someone who quickly became a member of the band's extended touring family.

The musician said the stage collapse had a profound impact on all those involved, including the 30 other crew members who were on or around the stage when the incident happened.

He described how band members "heard a very loud sound of breaking glass, which reached a crescendo", ran to the stage and saw it had collapsed.

"The collapse has made us vulnerable where we used to feel secure," he said.

The incident has left the band and its crew members on edge about the safety when on tour.

Radiohead - in an abundance of caution - has since adjusted how it designs its stage sets to mitigate potential risks, Mr Selway said.

They have also hired a tour engineer to ensure the stage safety is always double-checked when relying on third parties to provide staging.

Mr Selway said that he hoped the inquest would allow for a full understanding of how and why the collapse happened and would issue strong recommendations to prevent something similar from ever happening again.

The band only returned to Toronto to play in 2018, and held a minute of silence for Johnson during their concert."

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WILD HOF speculation (because no drop today, kids.)  The careful wording for tonight's HOF appearances -  "except for a few members of Radiohead".  So let's see.  A few means no less than three,  yah? Meaning no Thom,  and two other absences.  Two band members only.  (Unless the duo are Colin and Stanley Donwood.  Colin plays those five notes, and Stanley holds a pint.)  OKidding aside, Ed and Colin seem the likely duo.  (I know Ed said he doesn't understand such awards, but he's such a NICE guy.)  Guitar and bass--Ed can sing lead.  Harmonizing with David Byrne.  Done and dusted.  

Answer: The duo are Phil and Ed.  Ed looking sharp.  

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30 minutes ago, Grunthos The Flatulent said:

Most of the AMSP songs are a bit crap live, and judging by the most recent setlists I'd say the band knows it.  

Best one is probably Identikit but even that doesn't compare well with the 2012 version. 

 

 

Oh yeah. Good call. Even Ful Stop is a bit of a mess on stage.

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I could see Burn the Witch, Daydreaming and Ful Stop regularly turning up in future sets.  Decks Dark I have a feeling will evolve.  It just felt like one of those songs they couldn't quite get right live yet, but over time may click.  I'd love to see Glass Eyes in some of the piano interlude spots Thom sometimes does, and would really love more TLW, but don't think that's going to happen.

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3 hours ago, Grunthos The Flatulent said:

Most of the AMSP songs are a bit crap live, and judging by the most recent setlists I'd say the band knows it.  

Best one is probably Identikit but even that doesn't compare well with the 2012 version. 

 

 

As someone lucky to enough to have heard every song on AMSP live, the only one that sucked was The Numbers.

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Desert Island Disc is the worst Radiohead song, The Numbers not far behind it, and the fact they got so much patronisation was er, classic Radiohead.

Present Tense had a real sense of personality to it in the early days – I love those Latitude, Atoms For Peace performances – but it got overwrought in the studio. Again. Classic Radiohead. I didn't mind the choir but I thought it lost its soul as a song that seemed very honest and straight from the heart from Thom. It could have been a bit of a funker live too but it seemed too scared to be properly jazzed up and made a mover, and too hesitant to be a simple acoustic-n-Thom ting. 

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Think a lot of the AMSP tracks would work so much better in smaller intimate venues. I saw two of the 2017 shows and they were both outside and the amsp tracks were a bit dull. Seeing them in larger venues you get a larger percentage of people who don’t know their full catalogue, at the Glasgow show I heard people saying they had no idea what album ful stop was from...at this point amsp had been out a year. 

Said it before but I would kill to have them play small venues again like they last did in 2006. No more bloody festivals please. 

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Actually I really like the rockin', swaggerin', HTTT-style live arrangement of Burn the Witch. It's just that Thom never sang it properly, or maybe couldn't. It's one of their best ever choruses and he slaughtered it every time.

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14 hours ago, Fuzzyste said:

Think a lot of the AMSP tracks would work so much better in smaller intimate venues. I saw two of the 2017 shows and they were both outside and the amsp tracks were a bit dull. Seeing them in larger venues you get a larger percentage of people who don’t know their full catalogue, at the Glasgow show I heard people saying they had no idea what album ful stop was from...at this point amsp had been out a year. 

Said it before but I would kill to have them play small venues again like they last did in 2006. No more bloody festivals please. 

They basically exclusively played small venues in 2016.

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With Radiohead songs, the first few years of touring are just the beginning!!  

I don't personally consider any of the A Moon Shaped Pool songs to have been disappointing in their concert versions, but i do think that whichever ones continue to new tours will have changed in unique ways! 

I'm very excited to eventually hear their official recordings from last year. 

 

 

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There are very few RH songs I don't like.  There are even fewer that I'd say were bad, let alone "the worst."  Seeing/hearing DID and The Numbers live multiple times increased my enjoyment of those songs.  I liked them when I heard them on AMSP.   (I liked the Numbers when it was Silent Spring.  I agree with Thom's politics and don't mind that he and Bill McKibben are chummy.)  Sure they're still simple, and could be called out for eye-rolling topics and cheesy lyrics.   They are arguably not superstars.  And the Numbers has the other recent cringe lyric "wings of butterflies."  Fair point.  But the band loved to play The Numbers live.  And to my ears they both sound good, maybe not the BEST EVARRR, but ranking songs -- especially without criteria-- has always seemed useless and beside the point.  Ranking songs you'd rather hear is another story and more interesting as those lists seem to change over time.   I admit I would have preferred to hear Decks Dark more instead of DID on tour.  Both nights in Amsterdam 2016  they played DD before DID.  

On 3/30/2019 at 7:42 PM, forward said:

Desert Island Disc is the worst Radiohead song, The Numbers not far behind it, and the fact they got so much patronisation was er, classic Radiohead.
 

 Could you explain why it's "classic RH" to play these songs?  
 

BTW is an amazing opener of a record.  But it still sticks out from the rest of AMSP, no?   Without the LCO, it lost a great deal played live.  And I agree that Thom never seemed vocally right in BTW live.  Some nights were better than others.  Some of his wailing in live shows (Osheaga anyone?) is embarrassing.  When he sings, Burrrrrrruuurn--urrrn, he sounds as if he's regurgitating.  

Liked the red flashing lightshow and the bands' work, but something was always missing.   Nothing missing in my living room though.  

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