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  1. While I'm really excited for the new disc and I'm sure the books will be a treat for all the collectors out there, in terms of music, this release seems very slight. Certainly not what I had in mind after this was first hinted at in the initial interviews. I really enjoy the OKNOTOK remaster of the original albums and b-sides and was really hoping they would follow suit here, even though the original master of the albums holds up quite nicely. They were supposed to have hundreds of hours of material from these sessions. There are glaring omissions even just going by the things we know are out there, such as the early electronic version of Optimistic or the "dodgy Kraftwerk" version of I Will. (Po Pad, anyone?). What about demos? Those were some of the highlights of OKNOTOK. Also, they were supposed to have hours of abstract electronic experiments that sometimes spawned album tracks and sometimes went absolutely nowhere. We seem to be getting a very poor glimpse into that with this release. Here's hoping the lead-up campaign will pay off yet and Mews will start leaking more goodies or something. Feels like TKOL part 2 all over again.
  2. It wasn't. The Minidiscs don't have the Motion Picture Soundtrack solo piano version, the cassette take of Nude and the demos of Attention, Let Down, Are You Someone, CUTW and Airbag. The overlap is actually minimal and the fridge buzz (which is actually present on both) only takes 14 seconds of space.
  3. an airbag saved my life* in an interstella burst i am back to save the universe computer drums bass wrong lift* is hard work you been stuck in a lift we been trying to reach you thom the belly of the whale (thanks Rei xxxx) paranoid android* get busy with the shakers while im fast asleep could you stop the noise im trying ta get some rest this the place it wont hurt ever again karma police* girl with hitler hairdo everybodys friend life in a glasshouse phew for a minute there i lost myself i lost myself sit down your safe now polyethelene*will never break down swirly self announcements. stuck in a frozen lake. the penultimate place in dante's hell. last flowers till the hospital*is a sign discovered in oxford -my unhealthy obsession with these institutions. analysts may get the connection. ambulances scream past my house at all hours of the day and night like the confessionals of Larkin's "Ambulan s." let down*in the midst of monster tour the momentum getting drunk to talk bombarded by dangerously high levels of radiation from xray machines. one day, one day... climbing up the walls*both managers and record company are nervous about such a nasty sound coming out of the speakers. this is a good sign. dogwander* bring on another take better than another cake. nude* it is a mans world. and this one is very confused and will have sex with anything woman who comes within a mile radius. but feels bad about it. so doesnt. exit song (for a film)* cannot be listened to more than once in a row. which made recording it easy. or not. but what film? big boots* it was a long time ago and i cant remember. a whole orchestra watching the film and playing along. real life is dull. i am i the white lotus flying off the quay with barbara bach. It definitely was a song. Doesn't mean they ever recorded a version that was worth anything.
  4. The real Ed O'Brien died in a car crash and was replaced by a look-alike con artist. None of the other members suspect anything.
  5. Controversial opinion: Phil will grow hair again and Jonny will find out he's adopted.
  6. It used to be my absolutely favorite unreleased track for years. The studio verison is not terrible, but just so unnecessarily overblown... I wonder if we'll ever get the 1998 version. The bits heard in MPIE sounded perfect to me, although the band didn't seem to think so.
  7. I think we've been through this before. If you think it's the exact same arrangement, you need to listen to some of those bootlegs again. Sure, the song didn't evolve all that much when compared to some of the others, but that makes perfect sense as it was hardly ever played after 1995 (exactly once, if I'm not mistaken).
  8. No, that's not what happened. But suggesting that after being commissioned to write a Bond theme they would just dig out a 20-year-old outtake and put some strings on top is similarly crazy.
  9. Look, I'm not saying anything of what's been said thus far is a definite proof of either alternative. I was simply arguing that there is no such thing as 1996 Radiohead piano sound, because you only have one song to make that case. I get what you're saying if you point out that the piano track sounds similar to Karma Police, but there are multiple ways you could arrive at that sort of sound, so claiming that "the piano was definitely recorded back during the OKC sessions" just seemed preposterous.
  10. Exactly like it did to your ears. Seems quite obvious that when you're doing a piano part for an epic guitar-driven Bond theme, you're going to go with a completely different sound than you would for something like Daydreaming.
  11. Can you name any other song besides Karma Police to make your point? If not, to me it's like saying "well the snare kinda sorta sounds like the snare on Vegetable so the drum track is definitely from 1993". This was intended for a Bond film, so perhaps that's why they'd go for a more straightforward "cheesy" sound? Studio Last Flowers was pretty much the same arrangement it was in the 1997 soundcheck, just with added piano. AMSP's True Love Waits is pretty much along the lines of what they had in mind with the "True Love Tape Loop" thing, but they just couldn't get it quite right. I still think it's much more likely they would stick to an arrangement similar to the 90s version (definitely not the EXACT same, just listen to the period live versions), when we're talking about their "abandoned Bond theme" that was seemingly gathering dust on the pile since 1998. I really can't see them thinking they could just stick some strings on an old outtake that they never considered good enough for release and submit it as a theme for a major blockbuster.
  12. Multiple sources have reported that they first did Man Of War, which was rejected for being written 20 years ago and then they did Spectre which was rejected for being too melancholy.
  13. They didn't record it for the reissue, they did it for the Bond film and it got rejected. The MPIE recording session was at least the second attempt at recording it. They definitely did it first at the end of 1995 around the time they did Lucky.
  14. Seriously though, the official release is a lossless preservation of the minidisc audio, which in itself is compressed, but it's a different kind of compression to mp3. The leak is more complete because it has all the copyrighted material that had to be edited out, but it is a 192 kbps transcode with some notable compression artifacts and some of the higher frequencies shaved off.
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